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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    I wonder how configurator "would know" if i just saw on one hw site news about release of gamerock 3090ti linked to the announcement on palit's site, and probably nobody yet have card on hands and thus able to provide PCB pictures. Though different PCB is possible (unlike with 3080 & 3090), if...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    I see that Palit released their 3090ti cards. I wonder if it will have same PCB, and if maybe it will help selling this WB inventory. Then again, Ti cost even more, there will be even less buyers of it (especially, as it makes much more sense with 3080 with 12gb), so probably won't make much...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Thicker pads can be less heat conductive. But if problem with thinner ones is bad contact, that is bigger issue then that. Seen threads that due uncommon pad thickness used in some cards, after changing old ones to new, supposedly better, but not of exact thickness & squishiness, temps took hit...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Still, unpleasant to hear, as after all, i've been one of those that generated that euphoria in forum :) I'd really appreciate too if you will (i guess it will involve comparing CAD drawings?)
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Ouch. Bad news :( I hope that at least those that told in forum that they will buy, did. So i guess, it means with certainty, that no card specific active backplate will be made .. that still leaves up in air, if block from some other released cooled backplate can be reused/attached to our...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    I perfectly understand AC to not wish to spend a lot for release of very small run product. All extra expenses not recouped by big enough run will turn out losses, and on top of our cards already being niche product, there might be even smaller number of those that will buy active backplate in...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Hmm, but from pics on all so far released blocks it looks like same waterblock but with card-specific backplate. We already have "passive" card-specific backplate in set of our blocks .. waterblocks from these new released active backplates cannot be attached to our passive backplates we have in...
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    Active Backplates - The time to wait will end soon!

    Well, generating mad ideas is one of my ways to pass time/waiting for product :). It looks to me like design and production is done and wait that is left, is for ready blocks to arrive (hopefully not too long due covid impact on logistics), and i'll be able to see soon if my predictions are...
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    Active Backplates - The time to wait will end soon!

    I predict that they'll try to design one as universal as possible, to better recoup R&D costs, as imho majority of customers, to save money, will keep buying w/o it, sticking with basic backplate in set with main gpu block, thus it makes little business sense to design specific active backplates...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Another thread to subscribe for updates :) Active Backplates
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Playasavas: 3070, as cheaper cards, are more common, but their owners are often less willing to shell out extra money for LC. They often also "need less cooling" and are often OK cooling noise wise on air cooling. Best way would be to get one of many of "reference design" there are already...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Pitty. I get business rationale behind, but it seems very interesting to see "how people do things" during developing phase of products i'm interested in. Probably some brainstorming, some 3d CAD modeling, 3d printing & cnc prototype machining, several testbench testrigs mix?
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    @Eddy feel free to dump here pics even with first concepts if it seems acceptable. While waiting for final product it's always interesting to find out about development process / what it might have been / what hurdles were met and so on :). Talking about it, suggesting something, rating...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    RosaPanteren: OK, even without heatsink obviously those elements will be somewhat cooled with stock cooler's air stream. But then again due rest of card, especially main heat generating components, being cooled much better and at lower temps with LC, those bits will dump/conduct way less heat...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Not sure it's right choice. Unless it's drastic flaw, i doubt for another version of block to be redesigned/made (doing redesign and another batch will be costly to AC, +more months waiting due logistic issues these days), even more so for these niche cards/blocks. That hole in block doesn't...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    @Thomas_S i wrote from my own experience :). I had mistaken inlet with outlet at first quick loop assemble too .. but it worked. Yes, temps are better with right configuration, but even with wrong one card was cooled much better then on stock air, hence i used just fine wrong config for a month...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    @vitas-1806 : other way around. Think of arrows as stream direction in or out of block. So closer to I/O bracket has arrow down, to center of block, water "IN", closer to gpu power wire connectors has arrow up, out of block, water "OUT". No matter if water goes from top or below of block (just...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Thanks for nfo, @Thomas_S & @Vanzin . My motherboard is old and has no rgb control connectors, hence i inquired what are possible options and if i can reuse existing aquaero which had some 'rgb led' named connector among others. But as i knew pinout & voltages only for AE6 side from it's manual...
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    'Gainward Phantom, Phantom GS, Palit GameRock, GameRock OC RTX 3090, 3080 waterblocks'

    Hmm, AE6's RGB LED connector seems of/for less voltage (p1-red-2.1V,p2-green-3.2V,p3-ground,p4-blue-3.2V), hence probably reason for no result when connecting to it. By chance you don't know also which wire/pin is for ground and such in AC's aRgbs 3pin connector?
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